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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 8, 2006 21:53:27 GMT -5
I just got in from a coffee date with a couple of my friends and the discussion of sex education came up. One of my girlfriend's is Don at a University and she was talking about how she doesn't think it's necessary to have a bowl of condoms in her room for her students to take as needed. She said that sex education wasn't part of her job as a Don, but I argued that it was because if her job as a Don is to look after first year University students, then that should also mean looking out for their sexual health.
Looking back on high school, our sex education program was severly lacking. We never learned how to use a condom, we quickly skimmed through the basics of STIs and we hardly talked about relationship issues. Now I am a HUGE proponent of Sex Education, and sometimes I am just flabergasted at the way other people don't see it as that important. I personally think it's one of the MOST important subjects that can be taught at both a high school and University level. Sex can be a matter of life and death and I feel that by denying young people sex education we are doing them a tremendous disservice.
I would love to know your opinions on sex education. Necessary? Or a waste of time? Critical? Or Skippable?
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Post by nadine on Mar 10, 2006 20:52:41 GMT -5
when i was in middle school, 7th grade i believe, we had a 2hr class of sex ed. that's all the sex ed i had in school, nothing in high school. luckily i was raised by a young mom, she was 14 when i was born, so we spoke freely about sex.
i think sex ed is totally necessary, and abstinence only programs do not work. kids are going to have sex, it's a fact that no one can change, and it's up to the responsible adults in their lives to provide all the information they can to protect these kids from the negative side of sex. however, sex shouldn't be taboo and only shed in a negative light, there is a fine line, but safety is key.
and i agree that your friend should have condoms available.
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Post by joanner on Apr 23, 2006 1:34:51 GMT -5
I think that sex education during adolescence is very important, and very neglected. I went to a catholic high school, and the idea of sex before marriage was never a topic. Gym class was divided into 2 sections in grade 10, where the females would go off with the female teacher and learn about 'girl issues', this part of phys ed. lasted about a week or two, and the only 'girl issue' I remember learning was when Mary Kay make up came to our class and did a couple make overs on some girls. Schools are being naive with the fact that teenagers are having sex, and many problems can be avoided if teens were more educated. I am in my 20's and still have questions about birth control methods that should of been taught to me in my teen years. Yes, our friend should have condoms available.
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Post by regalia on Apr 24, 2006 9:27:24 GMT -5
the only thing i remember from sex ed in high school was how to make babies...procreation was the only acceptable thing to teach students (but i'm old too...lol...maybe they do it differently now???)...
there was also this teacher who gave each row one paper cup. when you got the cup you were to spit in it. you were to exchange all cups 5 times. by that time your spit was swapped with every person in the class - so as to impress upon you the likelihood of getting an std.
BUT NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT HOW TO HAVE A FREAKING ORGASM DURING SEX! come on...i could've used that! honestly...
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Post by emaly on Apr 26, 2006 16:48:03 GMT -5
My 7th grade class did a similar exercise, but with masking tape on our arms instead of a cup. We put the tape on our arms, pulled it off (and any arm hair that got in the way) and put it on someone else's arm to show how it got less and less sticky. It was designed to show how much less fresh and virginal, i.e. dirty, you were each time you had sex with another person. I always remember teachers impressing upon us how the act of sex itself is "better" if you wait until marriage to have it, as if there were some kind of magic attached to your first time that causes virgins to have the perfect idealized, sex. And if you loose your virginity any sooner, you were cheating your future marriage partner out of the post-nuptial virgin wonder sex. This is obviously a ridiculous myth, that left me totally unprepared for the shot-in-the-dark crap fest of pain that was my first time.
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Post by jess24800 on Apr 27, 2006 21:05:32 GMT -5
I am completely exhausted from work and have no brain power to write an actually posting, but I just wanted to let y'all know that you brought a smile to my face with your stories Is it a good thing that things that so disturb me, also make me laugh?!?
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Post by quincy on Apr 28, 2006 0:20:35 GMT -5
Okay so, obviously sex ed did us all wrong... or am I all wrong. What are the real numbers behind kids who have frequent sex and have contracted STDs for the kids who've had frequent sex and not contracted the crotch germs. ...
... and the thought of sexual education is a fairly funny one to me. What more can a education system do to tell a child about STDs that MTV or any other teen junket hasn't covered better or even more thoroughly? ...
...Maybe high schools could do a service by spending more time modeling healthy relationships. Perhaps a series of courses that kids can 'opt' into that will talk and discuss about healthy relationships that those kids would be intersted in. This way there would/could be a range of relationships being modeled and hopefully this would lead to kids becoming better partners to their lovers and thus working to be better safer sexual partners. ... god, I'm a genious. people should pay me for this shit.
refering to the top post: It is the resposibility of the Don to keep kids safe. I'm astonished she could reason it out to herself that the condoms were not her concern. What a winner!
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Post by regalia on Apr 28, 2006 0:30:44 GMT -5
i like that idea, quincy...
what's a Don?
weren't you just telling me about how male circumcision and monogamy were more effective than condom promotion for AIDS prevention in s. africa...?
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Post by riotgrrl on Apr 28, 2006 18:43:12 GMT -5
Qunicy,
I think you're absolutely right. Sexual Health Education really won't work unless students are also allowed to explore the emotional dynamics of a healthy relationship. Most girls in high school entering into male/female partnerships have no previous education on gender relations or know anything about the power imbalance between teenage girls and boys that usually occurs. For example, at my high school one year there was an outbreak of a certain STI amongst Grade 10s because some girls thought it was a good idea to orally service the entire hockey team. No one told them it was wrong. And I think that is so sad.
I think your idea is a great one. Courses like Women's Studies and Human Sexuality and Family Studies should be mandatory at the high school level.
You can give high school kids all the free condoms and birth control in the world, but if they're not taught how to express their feelings about sex and love and relationships, then they only have half the story.
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Post by katie on May 3, 2006 14:12:30 GMT -5
Has anybody seen the new billboard on 71 South trying to promote abstinance only sex ed?? We are so obviously in a red state, and I hate it. Asbtinance only sex ed is so freaking useless!!! Ask any pregnant teenage girl who was forced to "pledge a promise to wait 'till marriage." That's like telling women to not behave like humans. Until they can afford to. I agree with riotgrrl.... we should totally just flat out teach a real, honest sex ed course in high schools.
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Post by caramel6582 on May 3, 2006 16:54:49 GMT -5
I had great sex education...between my mom and my school. My middle school spent like a day on it and high school there was a full week in health class. We had an outside lady come in and teach. Anyways, I think the thing that is missing in a lot of sex education classes is education on oral sex. It's like the missed topic of the day or something. I think there should be more info on dams and flavored condoms. You be suprised at how many people don't realize that you can get STIs in your throat. I also think that some phrases should be changed in teaching. Some teachers exclude same-sex sex and I think they should cover it. They can be PC if they want and just say partner if they need to.
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Post by regalia on May 9, 2006 10:57:18 GMT -5
yes! i've seen this - we should gather pictures of this stuff around our city and post them here...i'd love to have your daily commentaries on this stuff...
and people who don't live in OH that read this stuff will be amazed!
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Post by mylittlex on May 18, 2006 11:28:10 GMT -5
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Post by regalia on May 18, 2006 14:14:10 GMT -5
haha ;D that reminds me of the saved by the bell reruns they have on adult swim
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